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I know a bunch of people here have SimCity 4 and quite enjoy it, including me. I was really wondering what other people's thoughts were on the new one that's coming out, considering it's sparked a small controversy amidst gamers because of the DRM.



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Never really played 4. Only a little bit 3000 and 2000. I found the beta of the newest one enjoyable though.



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I've head a couple people say that the Beta was fun. I haven't played it, so I don't know entirely how it works, but it sounds like -- from what people are saying at least -- that cities can't be built as large as they could be before. I don't know; the game looks super fun and pretty annoying at the same time.



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small controversy

 

That's putting it extremely lightly.  While I really love Maxis games and would eagerly buy this one, the always-online DRM is extremely disconcerting.  I know for a fact that I probably would not be able to play it at home because the signal in my room is highly unstable.  While I wish those at Maxis would get their due, EA really needs to feel the burn if they would ever consider removing it.



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I have played SimCity 4 before and quite liked it. I would really love to give this game a try, but the always-on DRM makes me say otherwise. It's truly a shame; footage of it makes me really tempted to try it, but the DRM alone is a deal breaker. Sorry EA, but you're not convincing me until the DRM is gone.

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McJobless

At least they're not as bad as Ubisoft...

 

I prefer The Sims, but 3 and its expansions have been absolute shockers. 2 was the best. SimCity wise, it's alright, but gets a little tedious after a while. This new one looks the same to me.



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This DRM is filth. The worst I've ever seen.

 

She further explained that some of SimCity's simulation aspects must be rendered on EA's servers for the game to run. Bradshaw said a "massive amount of computing" goes into this, and the game's Glassbox engine can  only achieve these tasks through a constant Internet connection.

 

They've built the game with the requirement of internet to the point of getting EA's servers to process work of the game while you play. Always On DRM is equivelent to use buying tokens at an Arcade to play a game... but in addition to that, EA games will be watching you play the games right by your side. And when EA has enough, EA will take away the game AND your tokens. This game will have no longevity, once EA shuts down servers for older games like these, the game will be rendered unplayable. DRM is not being used to "protect" it is being used to "control" the game and the player.

 

 

Not only that, but players' games are saved online, so if you lose the connection, not only will you be prevented from playing your purchased game, but you'll be back at whatever point you were at when your service died.

No internet = No Game & No Save Games.

 

I was looking forward to the game. I Will not be buying it now. EA needs to get another "Worst Company in the World" award every year until they get the message.... and Maxis, shame on them for designing the game around this model. If EA cared about it's consumers, they'd be listening to the 1000's of people digging a grave for EA.

 

This is practically Sim City Online. What's next, "Login with your Facebook account"?

 

And lets not get started with needing Origin too...


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Fushigisaur

Man, I was looking forward to a new title since SC2K won't install on my computer, but this is BS.
I for one am very limited as to when and where I can access the intertubes.
I always have (and always will) despise games that require a constant internet connection.

There is no excuse.

#9
Xiron

This is practically Sim City Online. What's next, "Login with your Facebook account"?
 
And lets not get started with needing Origin too...

I can pretty much imagine that, lol.

If you've used Origins before, you'll know it is pretty much EA's copy of Steam.

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Online DRM?

Ya, no.

I was going to get it, but if EA decided to show more of its true colors, it loses on a customer. Sorry, Maxis. I love you guys, but your overlord is evil incorporate.



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I find it hard to even refer to most companies that are owned by EA as their old names with a straight face. EA tends to suck the soul out of everything they touch, *coughbiowaremaxisandeverythingelse*

 

I might give this a shot, I loved SimCity 4, but all of these issues are a turnoff. Don't even get me started with Origin. It's a crappy, crappy imitation of Steam, and everyone knows it at this point. I technicaly have it installed, I think a Sims 3 update might have asked for it or something, but I never run it.

 

All that said, I hope this doesn't turn out to be another nightmare like SimCity Societies. I know that was supposed to be a spinoff with a diffferent playstyle, but good God, was it bad.



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This is practically Sim City Online. What's next, "Login with your Facebook account"?

The Sims 3 has already enabled that. It's not mandatory, but quite a few features of the game are locked unless you use an FB account. Furthermore, the SimCity Facebook Game.

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You guys have all said exactly what I was thinking, but didn't take the time to type out. So now I'm completely torn between whether I should buy it or not. I see some of you have very strong opinions about the DRM (and I do, too) but it looks so fun!* Right now I'm definitely leaning toward not buying it, though.

 

*The game, that is. Not the DRM.



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Don't buy it, and warn others not to buy it. Don' ever support the DRM efforts of these developers, because you'll notice that they speak in money, and if over-protection costs them huge amount of profit, they'll got one of two ways:

  1. Decide the franchise is stale and at fault and can it (Not likely considering sales of previous titles)
  2. Decide the DRM is at fault and lower it somewhat

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For some reason the sim city games just haven't struck me as being good games. Now if they go even more in depth and allow even more customization and perhaps even go one step further and add A mode that allows you to create a civilization from it's birth, such creating it's language, culture, religion etc without any limitations then I might consider getting it. But for now no go for me.

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Methinks I'll stick with SimCity 2000.  No DRM, and those pixel graphics have a certain charm.


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For some reason the sim city games just haven't struck me as being good games. Now if they go even more in depth and allow even more customization and perhaps even go one step further and add A mode that allows you to create a civilization from it's birth, such creating it's language, culture, religion etc without any limitations then I might consider getting it. But for now no go for me.

You mean like Spore?

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Yeah, I think I'll just stay with the old SC4. I don't need no silly Glassbox engine.



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For some reason the sim city games just haven't struck me as being good games. Now if they go even more in depth and allow even more customization and perhaps even go one step further and add A mode that allows you to create a civilization from it's birth, such creating it's language, culture, religion etc without any limitations then I might consider getting it. But for now no go for me.

You mean like Spore?
No no.. Not at all like spore...that game sucked...I mean something like Sim city but more followed from like caveman times up... You know not from species birth but civilization birth and a lot more in depth then spore.

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No no.. Not at all like spore...that game sucked...I mean something like Sim city but more followed from like caveman times up... You know not from species birth but civilization birth and a lot more in depth then spore.

 

I get what you're saying, but man, I liked Spore!